Sam's Transcript Continued
Fran: mm, but so are you
Sam: Yes we are
Fran: So, just going back to where you are then, you're on the top of the mountain, you're looking down, or did you say hill?
Sam: Hill
Fran: So what's happening now, what can you see?
Sam: People in the camp are trying to put out fires now that they've gone. We are gathering again seeing what our losses are. Seeing what
we can re-claim. What we need to do, who we need to build ??pias?? from...
Fran: And what about the horses? You said that Milly was next to you
Sam: (Whispering)...she's brave
Fran: Can you talk more about that?
Sam: I think I've lost Milly....horses are precious...we have some who are wounded, have some of them we'll have to put in to foal, we need our horses...
Fran: But Milly got an arrow through her so can you still feel her at the side of you?
Sam: Yes
Fran: Can you still communicate with her?
Sam: Yes
Fran: Ok, so how long will she stay with you?
Sam: Forever
Fran: What else can you see, what's happening now?
Sam: Wailing...I hear the wailing
Fran: It's very upsetting isn't it? Have you lost anybody else who's close to you?
Sam: Not sure yet...I think we will have to have a new leader
Fran: So the leaders gone?
Sam: I think we have lost our chief
Fran: Yeah, so is there anybody there that people are thinking should take over?
Sam: Me...the son
Fran: Ah, so you're the chief’s son, .do you know what your name is?
Sam: Taquahentae
Fran: And are you going to take that role on?
Sam: I have to
Fran: Do you feel strong enough to do that?
Sam: Yes
Fran: Good, ok so just moving away from that scene, for a moment I want you to go to the actual place where you live, I know it's in that village and I know you've got something that may have just been burnt down, but can you just go to there. I want you to look at it from the outside, the place where you live and just describe it?
Sam: We are in a wide canyon... a river that runs through it, it's on the left as I'm looking down... in the middle we have the big Tepee’s, the chiefs' family, it's surrounded by groups of other Tepee’s, we have the medicine man, he's on the right...we have a point that we normally come through to enter this camp, it's not guarded, but it's because of the layout of the canyon it's the way we normally come in. And the chief’s door opens towards that route
Fran: So there's only one way in and one way out, is that what you're saying?
Sam: Off the canyon, yes
Fran: Ok so do you feel like that might me a bit of a trap, or do you feel that's safe?
Sam: It wasn't guarded well enough. They can't come down the hills, they can't come down the sides, but it can be a trap if it isn't guarded well enough
Fran: So are you going to change that?
Sam: Yes
Fran: So as you actually go into your Tepee, I just want you to describe what's inside
Sam: There are skins on the floor...warm skins, there's a fire pit in the middle, that's where the women ???...we sit around...we have logs, logs we cover them with rugs and we sit on them and we talk around the fire...and towards the edge we have piles of skins - they're our beds....
Fran: Right, so how many of you live together in that Tepee?
Sam: In that Tepee we have six.....its big
Fran: So who do you live with?
Sam: My father, my mother, me, my brother, my sister, and we have....the ?elm?...there's a lady who helps my mother look after me - all of us
Fran: Ok good, so is your mother alright, has she been hurt in the fighting?
Sam: My mother's alive
Fran: Good - what about your brother and your sister?
Sam: They're too young to fight....she hid them, my mother hid them
Fran: Why did she hide them?
Sam: She hid them under rugs
Fran: You've got the fire in there but at night when it goes dark how do you light the Tepee?
Sam: We have fabrics which have been knotted - rolled altogether and have been burned in an oil, and they burn in dishes....they're rolled really tight so they take a long time to burn...and they just sit in the dish...
Fran: Ok so how do you spend the majority of your time in the day, what do you do?
Sam: We tend the horses, we sharpen the tools, we hunt, the women skin animals, tan the hides, dry the food, cook the food, we tend to sick animals
Fran: Ok so, when you actually hunt, I'd like to know more information about that so, can you go to a point where you're actually hunting and I want you to tell me what you see, are you there on your own or?
Sam: No...we hunt in groups, depends what we're hunting...some may fish, we usually start the younger boys fishing
Fran: Ok so, how do you teach them how to fish, what do you use?
Sam: Spears, they have to wade into the river and learn to be still
Fran: So it's just the spear actually just going down on the fish and spearing them
Sam: Yes, they need to learn how to use a spear...it's our primary tool when hunting
Fran: Aright if you give me an example of when you're hunting and it's something really big…. and just tell me what you're seeing?
Sam: Buffalo
Fran: How do you hunt those?
Sam: We try to tie them, we've got to split the herd, separate one and then we all use our spears to bring it down...we need strong brave horses for this
Fran: When you've actually brought it down, how do you get it back to the camp?
Sam: We drag it
Fran: What do you drag it on?
Sam: Ropes made from hide
Fran: When you actually hunt for the buffalo, or any animal, do you actually give thanks to it or anything like that? Do you communicate with it?
Sam: Always......when we bring the animal down, we have a song. It's a chant, a song and it is to give thanks that this animal has given up his life to keep us alive. We give one when we bring it down, we chant then before we take it away. The buffalo is so big we have to drag, or put it on a pallet if we have one. Other animals we can mount on some of the horses....and they're thanked again once they come to camp. The women sing and chant as they skin the animals
Fran: mm, does the animal know that it's been chosen before you actually go for it and hunt it down? Do you communicate with it?
Sam: Yes
Fran: Do you ask if it can be brought down and eaten?
Sam: It's not so much an asking, it's more of a telling, because we always tell them we will honour them
Fran: Do they communicate back to you?
Sam: Some give up easier than others, some will fight, some will take some arrows and run back and it's not their time they won't give in but if there's a couple of arrows and spears they'll drop
Fran: And they're happy to do that?
Sam: Yes.....it is their time
Fran: I want you to go back to the camp now, and I want you to tell me what you're seeing?
Sam: Busyness....busy, even in the grief there are people being busy. I see the witch doctor has come out, our medicine man, he's out by his hut, he's ready, he's waiting, he knows he's going to be busy...he has his fire and his herbs...
Fran: Can you give me an example of when he's actually treating somebody of what he does, if you can just pick somebody you know there who he's going to treat, can you just run through that and describe it?
Sam: He has many leaves and dried herbs that he makes a poultice from, sometimes he chews these and then spits them out and puts the lump on their skin and then puts a simple bandage on, that might be for a knife wound, other times if he has to remove things from their body, he will have them in the hut and he burns herbs, and he takes their minds to another level so that he can do what he needs to do...and we hear the screams if he does it
Fran: How does he take them to another level?
Sam: The herbs
Fran: Right I see, yeah, do you know what the herbs are?
Sam: I don't know their names...there are some with pods, with seeds in. I can see a long green pod, it has black seeds inside he uses some of those seeds....there are others that are spikey, some that look like men’s hands that are green. And he uses certain, berries as well. Sometimes he disappears for a couple of days collecting these
Fran: So he takes them to a, a different level, to a different state, and what does he do then? It just heals naturally does it?
Sam: No he uses those like an anaesthetic...so he can lessen their pain and their awareness...if he has to remove a limb...or the limb is partially severed off and he has to take the rest
Fran: How does he do that does he have really sharp knives - how does he do it?
Sam: Yes he has many knives...has some big knives like the tomahawks and he has some very small knives, really fine knives, like needles
Fran: Ok so if he had to do that how would he actually seal the leg if he had to cut part of the leg off?
Sam: Fire...he cauterizes it….he heats..... it's like a plate...and binds it, packs it with weeds, wet herbs and wheat and binds it to let it heal
Fran: What I want you to do now is to leave that scene so I want to move you forward to an important day, and I want to go there now and tell me what you see?
Sam: Everybody……………. the whole tribe is here...everybody....the warriors are all dressed up with their feathers, their braids, they’re just dressed like they're going to war but they're not...their celebrating
Fran: Ok so what's happened?
Sam: I'm being made chief
Fran: Oh ok so how old are you now?
Sam: I'm twenty five
Fran: Ok so it's a big celebration then?
Sam: Yes...much food cooking
Fran: Good and what are you wearing?
Sam: I have a very big head dress on my head
Fran: Can you describe that?
Sam: Yes...it's leather around my head and attached to it are black feathers, these are from my father’s head dress, these are big plumes...and that radiates around from ear to ear...and I have his collar, this is of our tribe, this passes through our tribe...every leader has this. And this sits around my neck covering my chest and the back is leather. It has woven braids of leather going from one side all looping around to the other side...and it has some stones that have been pierced, they're beautiful stones that have been sharpened into like teeth and they're attached to those leather pieces that go from side to side...and they fill it, they're a dark dark rock, almost black
Fran: Right, what about your wrists, anything on there?
Sam: Yes I have similar plates which go from my wrists almost to my elbows...and they're leather with bindings. Rocks don't dangle on this though, the rocks are only on the front part of my forearm, the lacings are at the back
Fran: What about your feet and you're legs - anything on there?
Sam: No I have my knife off but I have a similar belt, it's like a small version of my collar, it's on the front and I have a scabbard which was my fathers...this is the chiefs scappard
Fran: How are you feeling?
Sam: Proud, happy, sad...it's my tribe now
Fran: Have you got another horse now?
Sam: I do - a good horse, I still have Milly she still walks with me, not as wise as Milly, not as good not as brave with the buffalo
Fran: But you can train it can't you?
Sam: Yes.
Fran: So where did you get that horse from, what happened….was it passed to you?
Sam: No I took this one on a raid, I took it because it looks like Milly
Fran: Ok mm, ok and is Milly happy about that?
Sam: Yes
Fran: Did she help you pick it?
Sam: Yes
Fran: Yeah ok, I thought so. Ok alright, so let's move away from that celebration now and leave that vision behind you and I want you to go to
another important day, an important day where you regard something is really big happening and I want you to go there now and tell me what you see?
Sam: We're having a meeting
Fran: Whereabouts are you?
Sam: We're out in the open plains, we wouldn't have it anywhere else...with my tribe, it's taken us two years to fully recover, but we are meeting with the tribe that we warred with.....we have to agree grounds otherwise there will be another war
Fran: So how's it going…..what's happening?
Sam: We are there, we are all, we have our best warriors, best horses, all of our spears, shining, dazzling in the sun…..we look fierce, as do they
Fran: Ok how many are there of you?
Sam: We have two hundred and fifty men
Fran: Right so they're all there with you?
Sam: Yes.....there are some at the camp...the younger boys, ones who aren't yet fit for war, they're with some of the older warriors, they’re guarding the camp...
Fran: The tribe that you're meeting with, how many are there of them?
Sam: They are similar in number
Fran: Ok so is it you that's talking to the chief?
Sam: Yes
Fran: So what's happening?
Sam: Our formation is a "v", theirs is a "v" also…..we stop eight hundred yards or so from each other and we go forward, I have four men with me as does he
Fran: Is that two at each side?
Sam: Yes…...I walk forward and we will make a little ??...we will sit around and we'll guard the horses, I will have one on either side and one behind me, he also...and we will agree
Fran: So I want to just move you a little bit forward now to when you've actually agreed terms and I just want you to tell me what's been agreed?
Sam: We both have the river, we have the river to one point, he has it from then onwards, we both need the river..... we will remain in our canyon, we have the hunting fields, which are to the south of us and to the east of us, we have the river's to the west, they are our lands. The land we met in is the land dividing us. He will have the area that is north of us
Fran: And the hunting fields, they'll be.......
Sam: His hunting fields are on the east on the other side of the river
Fran: Ok are you both happy with the agreement?
Sam: Yes
Fran: Ok so how old are you now?
Sam: Twenty five
Fran: So it's more or less straight away from when you've became chief
Sam: Yes
Fran: What's happening now?
Sam: We hope to trust them...we drink beer - we toast. We draw the map in the floor...we have our men go out and put markers, stone markers, on the lines
Fran: On the territory, yeah ok
Sam: So we can see where these are - these should not be passed without invitation
Fran: Do you think you will actually communicate with them again, you know, will you get together?
Sam: We have to trade...we have more buffalo, they like our buffalo, everyone likes buffalo... they have other things that they can trade with us. Their fishing is better and they're also up river...and they have lots of stones which the women like for jewellery
Fran: Ok so it's a nice balance really…………..leaving that scene behind you then I want you to move to the last day of your life in that life, and I want you to go there now and tell me what you see?
Sam: I'm in my hut, in my Tepee...I'm on a bed of buffalo hide, soft it's very soft but I ache
Fran: Why do you ache?
Sam: I ache all over...I'm tired and old
Fran: How old are you?
Sam: Fifty seven
Fran: So what's happened to make you be aching all over?
Sam: I'm old for our tribe, it's a hard life, I have many old wounds, broken bones...I'm aged, I've been injured in the past but not enough to kill me
Fran: Yeah - who's around you?
Sam: My family
Fran: Who is your family?
Sam: I have three wives, I have grandsons and daughters, and I have a baby son too, he's walking...
Fran: Ok is there anyone in particular that's next to you on the right - who's that?
Sam: My first wife
Fran: What's her name?
Sam: Chinquay
Fran: And where are the other two?
Sam: Next to her on my right...in order like one two and three
Fran: So how many wives can you actually take?
Sam: As many as I like
Fran: And do they all sleep together in the same tepee as you?
Sam: No they have their own...one wife will sleep with me
Fran: Which wife is that?
Sam: Chinquay
Fran: What's happening now?
Sam: My eldest son, Hafah, he's on my left, he will take over, he will be the next chief
Fran: And are you happy about that?
Sam: Yes he's a wise boy......he's a strong man
Fran: Alright so you feel like you're aching at the moment, so just tell me what's happening, you've got all your family around you, I just want to
move you on slightly so we can see what happens
Sam: I’m at peace
Fran: So have you actually passed over now?
Sam: No I will soon
Fran: So you feel good about where you're going?
Sam: I feel good about what I've done...the tribe is good, they're in good hands...my son is a good man...I feel like now I can leave them, my job's done
Fran: Good alright I want to move you forward to the time when you're actually passing over and tell me if there's anybody with you, if anybody's shown up, just before you pass?
Sam: I ride Milly... (crying)....
Fran: ...oh Milly? Ok....so where can you see her?
Sam: She's behind my back...I rise from my body, I'm on her back, uh, and we ride, ah young again ... (crying)...we're unbound and free, fly like the wind
Fran: Whereabouts are you, are you on Earth? Can you see Earth as you're doing this?
Sam: We can through the skies, the Earth is below us...we're made of light, awe.... she takes me to the heavens (sobbing)
Fran: Keep describing to me what you're seeing?
Sam: (Sobbing) oh the Earth is smaller, it's smaller, it fades beneath us, we're galloping, we fly, oh it becomes smooth we fly, in the stars...oh we fly up to the stars. I'm surrounded by stars, oh, the stars, the people they're in…….. they're spirits, we see inside all the stars that surround us, oh wow
Fran: So is she taking you to a particular star
Sam: We're surrounded at the moment...we're absolutely surrounded, oh… (laughing) there she is….there’s Mum
Fran: So is she meeting Milly……..does she know Milly?
Sam: Yes
Fran: So what happens to you now, what can you see?
Sam: Many "hellos", many hellos, I’m feeling the spirits of all the warriors of the tribe behind me, those who lost their lives in battle...some of the children that died, the women, I feel them all, they're there
Fran: You say they're behind you
Sam: Yes
Fran: If you turn around can you see them?
Sam: Yes
Fran: Can you describe them?
Sam: Behind and to the side also...I see them as bright stars, at the moment I'm seeing them, like my mum saw her family, there's almost like……. almost a transparent image over the front of how they looked on Earth to help me know who is who...once I feel them they no longer need that image
Fran: But they're all stars are they?
Sam: Yes
Fran: Are you in the middle of the stars or……. you said you're surrounded by them? Where are you positioned?
Sam: If I had to put this on the concept of levels or depth……. I'm at the beginning I'm at the lower level...the big light…….. the big congregation of them is above me
Fran: Do you know where you've got to go next?
Sam: My mums going to take me through….. home…… with her…… it's darker but no stars in this bit it's like a dark tunnel...we come through, we're in the fields to where she came to
Fran: Ok so was that dark like a tunnel, was it like a porthole that you've just been through?
Sam: Yes
Fran: Ok so you're in a field where she was before, so what's happening now?
Sam: This is the healing place it is where we will be healed
Fran: When you say we, who do you mean?
Sam: Me and Milly
Fran: Right ok so Milly's not been there yet, she stayed with you?
Sam: She stayed with me
Fran: Ok so tell me what's happening now?
Sam: Milly's grazing, mum is telling me what will happen, who will visit, what we will learn...people I haven't talked to, she tells me about the great healer and other people I will visit……I will talk to, tell them about my life as it was
Fran: Ok so I just want to move you forward from that scene and I want you to go to when you've been healed and where you are then and what you see? I want you to go there now
Sam: I'm in the stars, and there are souls around me, stars around me that I feel, I feel their presence, I know who they were.....it's like learning, it's very strange, it's hard to explain because I feel that I can hear everybody but I don't know everybody...I can feel these individual spirits, these individual souls, some of who I can feel them but I've never met them before but we have a comradery, it's not a place of judgement, it's not like warring tribes...really it's more like one big tribe
Fran: Can you explain a bit more about it?
Sam: I'm free to go find out, to find out knowledge, to seek knowledge to ask questions, to find……..share what I've learned from my time on Earth, what my experiences have been...and to find from others what they've experienced, what Earth is all about, why we go there
Fran: Ok so now as you are what would your answer be to that, why do you go to Earth?
Sam: We go to experience and we go to learn...because there are things that are taught on Earth which are in a physical limitation, we don't have physical limitation up here. On Earth we experience aloneness, we have solitude, whereas it's a different experience, it's a different existence to the existence of being a star
Fran: Ok so what will you do next?
Sam: I’m going to find out more about the experiences on Earth……….others' experiences
Fran: So what are you going to do?
Sam: Communicate……ask questions……..I'd also like to know more about how Earth was created
Fran: Ok do you want to go there now and find this knowledge out?
Sam: mm…got to….send to the higher levels
Fran: Ok as you do that, can you describe to me what's happening?
Sam: Feel like I'm floating up almost being sucked
Fran: So have you made a communication to say that you want to go up there first, or are you just going?
Sam: I'm just going................ whoosh ...mm wow
Fran: Can you share that "wow"?
Sam: There is so much knowledge. I'm in a place that which the stars are close together, it's like a dome, bright white dome of light, and I can feel old souls, old knowledge, wisdom….. an intelligence that is so profound……. I can't take all of this in, my mind isn't great enough it's not big enough this is, this is why it's up here, you have to learn, you have to learn how to expand your mind even more and more to take all of this in
Fran: Can you find out how or have you got the knowledge there that can be shared with you as to how the universe actually started?
Sam: Gosh - I'm struggling with this......gosh this is construct...these are constructs that have been put into these questions which are limited by our understanding, it's much bigger than we could understand at this time.....the universe is a consciousness that always has been, things had been created by the consciousness
Fran: So where did the consciousness come from in the beginning?
Sam: It's been here, it's always here
Fran: What you're saying is we're in a massive brain, basically?
Sam: This consciousness is absolutely huge
Fran: So the source, or god, is actually a consciousness?
Sam: Yes
Fran: Is there just this one consciousness or are there others outside of that, it's just this one, is there?
Sam: Yes...there is this one, it's massive, it's absolutely massive, Earth is not the only thing this consciousness is responsible for
Fran: What else is it responsible for?
Sam: What we would call aliens, planets...the universe as we know it and beyond
Fran: So within that I know there's a lot of questions where you are at the moment that could be answered, but I don't want to give you too much………… to take too much information in, I don't want to scramble you but I want to know about the light and the dark, now it's very nice thinking about the light but there's also darkness on this planet as well, was that created by this consciousness or is that like a parasite that’s come and it's just come and......
Sam: It's on the planet, it is created, it's created by man, it's created by…….. individuals and groups of individuals who, for one reason or another, become twisted and dark, often through pain and sorrow, but it has a purpose
Fran: Can you explain that more, what is the purpose of that?
Sam: Without light there is no dark, without good there is no evil and people have to have……. one of the lessons is choice, one of the lessons is where our lives go, what we should do. It's thinking about the impact and learning on the impact of others. Other souls, what would happen……some get carried away with that, they get twisted and become evil
Fran: Because I know there's like 1% of the planet, on Earth is actually ruling the rest of the humanity, so are these the ones that you're talking about, these are the ones that are twisted?
Sam: Yes
Fran: Yeah…… is there anything working then behind them
Sam: There's something I'm having to learn about, I'm asking...they have their purpose, we need to have challenge
Fran: The light and the dark, is that just on Earth or is that other places in the universe as well?
Sam: The higher consciousness is not to do with dark
Fran: No…...so is that just on planet Earth, or I mean for instance Saturn, the planet Saturn, has that got darkness on there?
Sam: Yes, there are darkness’s on the planet, on all the planets
Fran: So we've all got to experience which ever planet we're on, we've got to experience the light and the dark?
Sam: Yes
Fran: But consciousness is only light
Sam: Yes
Fran: Right so the darkness came from beings, whichever planet they're on, being a bit twisted and bringing it on through pain etc
Sam: Pain, sorrow, corruption...but it is all learning, it's all part of the balance
Fran: Right ok…..because I know that humans can sometimes get attachments and souls that don't move on………. they can stay with a human if they can actually attach to them?
Sam: Dark entities will...there are dark entities that don't want to leave the planet
Fran: So how can we overcome that, how can we actually send them on?
Sam: If they can't attach then we can help them attach to the light, they need to be sent to the light, they can be healed once they're in the light
Fran: Right, so what's the best way of doing that?
Sam: To help them ascend, to free them, the people to protect themselves with white light, white light is powerful...
Fran: It's been actually put out there on the planet as well through certain people, that the white light is a false light, and if you go into the white light you can be recycled basically by the bad ones that have got this grid around the Earth stopping you from getting to the light, is that just a ploy by the dark ones to scare people or is that a real……….
Sam: Yes
Fran: Right, it's not a real construct then
Sam: No
Fran: No ok, what's happening with the dark at the moment - is that coming down?
Sam: Light is winning, light is increasing, there's still a lot of dark within the world but the light force is increasing, consciousness is helping, the
raising of consciousness is helping
Fran: So as we rise in consciousness on this planet, is this raising the consciousness….. the main consciousness
Sam: The general of the Earth……yes
Fran: Alright ok, is the moon a real moon?
Sam: The moon is a light source...it's reflective……...it's been placed
Fran: Who's placed it there?
Sam: The consciousness placed it
Fran: Why did it want to do that?
Sam: To reflect light
Fran: Going back to where you are at the moment, you're on the high levels, what can you see now?
Sam: Shimmering, it's like a waterfall of light, it's like being in a dome, as I look around, it makes my head hurt
Fran: Do you want to pull away from it?
Sam: Yes
Fran: Ok so if you just come down again, away from it so it's not so overwhelming, so you can see it in the distance and you're not actually in it...and just tell me what you're seeing?
Sam: It’s really beautiful, it changes form it's never constant...it's……..sometimes it looks almost, almost like a jellyfish, you know, with prongs and feathers on the ends and just pulsating…….at other times it looks quite solid
Fran: And is it just white light or it's got a tinge?
Sam: No it has colours, it's really quite beautiful
Fran: What colours can you see?
Sam: It's real pure white towards the top but around the bottom, it's all like these beautiful white lights, it's the auras around the white lights that go through the rainbow…..it's beautiful prisms of light
Fran: mm, ok...so what are you doing now, are you just looking at that?
Sam: Yes
Fran: Do you want to come down a bit further then and describe to me what you see?
Sam: I feel groups, groups of people, I wouldn't say people, souls, groups of souls and spirits
Fran: Are these ones that you're familiar with or………?
Sam: There's some that I'm familiar with and some that I'm not but it's all………..so welcoming……..so friendly
Fran: From what you're saying there's no individuality, it feels you're all kind of together?
Sam: There is an individuality but it's mixed in, it's still part of a whole, but it's very comforting to be a part of that whole, there's never the loneliness that you experience as a person...but there is the privacy
Fran: You said you can go anywhere you want to, can you go to different planets and just go and have a look?
Sam: I don't know about that yet
I then brought in Sam’s higher self to request healing and to talk about personal matters.
Before closing I asked the following:-
Fran: Now I just want to check with her mother - is she still here in the room?
HS: Yes
Fran: What did she think to that session?
HS: Fascinating - wished she had done it when she was alive on Earth - just to prepare her for where she is........
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